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Post by knotthead on Oct 22, 2008 6:24:55 GMT -6
In the Body section of rules, in this case "Stock", the max. width is 2 3/4". Is this measurement of the body itself or from axle tip-to-axle tip. Just want to be sure the solid axles I'm making meet rule requirements
Lee
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Post by 3cubdad on Oct 22, 2008 6:47:33 GMT -6
Lee,
I believe Warren uses one of Randy's Go/No-Go boxes. This is what we used at BGN. All of the car had to fit inside of the box, (2 3/4" W x 7" L) including axle tips. We had several cars that had to modify their axle "caps" to pass inspection. Warren or one of the rules committee would have to give you the "official" answer.
Steve 3cubdad
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Post by knotthead on Oct 22, 2008 7:10:59 GMT -6
Thanks,Steve
I kinda figured it is tip-to-tip, just needed some sort of clarification. Can't imagine a "body" being that wide (although there are some "Hollywood folks" trying to achieve it ;D)
Lee
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Post by 3cubdad on Oct 22, 2008 7:16:03 GMT -6
Thanks,Steve I kinda figured it is tip-to-tip, just needed some sort of clarification. Can't imagine a "body" being that wide (although there are some "Hollywood folks" trying to achieve it ;D) Lee I was kind of thinking more along the lines of a Sparticus Chariot! Maybe if I put some spikes coming off the end of my axles and convince Warren to let me run the first race in the lane next to Wasabi, I might have a chance of actually beating Proquest!! Steve
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Post by Mr. Slick on Oct 22, 2008 7:30:43 GMT -6
It is Tip-to-Tip or entire car/axle width. . . including Fenders, spears, arrows, antenna, etc. I believe that the only exception to this would be the Big rigs or some other special races.
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Post by woodenshoe1 on Oct 22, 2008 16:43:16 GMT -6
Hey Warren,
A little off the subject, but when the rules state 1 3/4" for the distance betwee the wheels, does that mean the body has to be that wide? How does this work with narrowing the body for RR?
Wooden Shoe
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Post by ProQuest on Oct 22, 2008 20:26:23 GMT -6
Hey Wooden Shoe:
The chassis does not have to be 1.75" wide, it can be as narrow as you like provided that the wheels have at least 1.75" clearance between them. For example, you could narrow your chassis to 1.00" and have .375" gap on each side between the chassis and each wheel. I wouldn't recommend it, but you could do so without being in violation of the 1.75" clearance requirement.
Does that answer your question? If not, please try us again.
Steve H.
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Post by Slow Steve on Oct 22, 2008 21:36:27 GMT -6
spears, arrows..., etc. Between your ideas and 3Cub's Spartacus' spike-enhanced Chariot Spike concept, you guys are givin' me some good ideas... there's still two months remaining to try to beat Wasabi!!! Now... technically... flames (real ones, not the painted variety)wouldn't really constitute a "moving part" would they? Would a remote controlled flamethrower be allowed on a Limited car??? ;D MPQIMH!!!
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Post by Mr. Slick on Oct 23, 2008 5:45:20 GMT -6
I suppose as long as the flames didn't melt the sides of the dimension testing box. . . . The problem is that if you consumed any mass you woul dbe in violation of moving parts. . . . no fuel consumption - no flames. I'm thinking that the best way would be to use an infrared emitter to soften the wheels with out any visible interaction from your car.
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Post by woodenshoe1 on Oct 23, 2008 7:16:18 GMT -6
Steve,
When you say the wheels need to be 1.75" apart, I assume you mean the inside edge of the tread and not the hubs. Is this correct? Also, what do you recommend for the width of the chassis? I'm looking at RR with one wheel raised.
Wooden Shoe
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Post by Mr. Slick on Oct 23, 2008 7:52:39 GMT -6
Yes, the inside edge of the tread. The car needs to fit over the center lane guide.
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Post by sappingtonr on Oct 23, 2008 8:27:33 GMT -6
Hey 3Cub, being the epic affeciando that I am, and also a long time fan of Kirk Douglas and the most recently departed Charlton Heston, I wanted to take the opportunity to provide a bit of education for all about chariot racing. I think that the following link sums it up best:
Sapp.
P.S. it was Ben Hur- and yes that's what I was trying to do with my wide needle mod at Bluegrass ;D BTW: Thanks again Beaker for the quick repair to my Chariot that was over the 2 3/4" ;)limit.
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Post by ProQuest on Oct 23, 2008 8:56:42 GMT -6
Steve, When you say the wheels need to be 1.75" apart, I assume you mean the inside edge of the tread and not the hubs. Is this correct? Also, what do you recommend for the width of the chassis? I'm looking at RR with one wheel raised. Wooden Shoe I second what Warren said -- the inside edged of the wheels are what must be no less than 1.75" apart. To answer your question about the width of the chassis, some builders are having success with notching the front end on the dominant side. If you do that you can remove up to around 3/32." I like to narrow the front by 1/16th on each side. Any more than that, and you may run afoul of the rule we are talking about that requires no less than 1.75" between the wheels. Both methods seem to work pretty well. Steve
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Post by woodenshoe1 on Oct 23, 2008 10:19:47 GMT -6
Thanks Warren and Steve,
I appreciate your replies. I have several new chassises in the works and wanted to try some new ideas. I run Awana cars on 30' wooden tracks. I understand RR may be risky on these tracks but it can't hurt to try. My kids are all done with Awana now, so it's just my car that I'm taking the risk with.
Wooden Shoe
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