Well hopefully some of the other guys have something they can send in. I will do my best to represent PDWR. I will try to put the league name on one of my cars.
All I can say it is worth a try and if it does not work out we will have no regrets.
I had every intention of sending one in for their BCA race.............I have it built, I have the shipping container built. (see attached picture if anyone doesn't think I'm serious!)
It was a nice change of pace to build one of those little suckers. I had a busy weekend and was not home to tune. It wasn't fast before I left on a weekend trip. I didn't have anymore time to devote to it. It's Tuesday now and I'm sure if I would send it from PA to UT it would not make it in time. (I don't spend the extra bucks for overnight shipping!) I'm cheap!
I now have one built if we race 4-5-4's here and if we don't I have one built for next year's other league BCA race! (I do have a year to tune now, so hopefully I'll be in better shape!) LOL
Tosawylo, you are right, it would be nice if we all could get along. Over the past year, I have tried my best to "mellow"...........It is a work in progress! ( I still like to needle StEVO!) LOL, but I think I'm getting a little more open minded.
Hopefully Tosawylo you will represent PWDR well..............good luck in the race. BSB
Post by spacewalker on Oct 16, 2012 10:54:08 GMT -6
I race at both leagues and will continue to do so as often as possible. I would like to see a real National Championship Race. This will not happen until other league, PWDR has crossover racing. Racers from both leagues will have to race each other to find the true National Champions. Currently we have League Champions, not National Champions.
Looking pretty good so far. I may have found a little more speed from my first PWDR race last weekend. My re-preps and new builds are a little faster. We will see how it turns out over there! Either way I am enjoying the great experience I am gaining from both leagues. Stay tuned!
I am an other league member; however, I have only been racing for about 18 months. A copy of this invitation was copied and posted on the other league forum, but there was not a lot of reaction, and now, almost three weeks later, none at all.
But I would like to post my reaction or reasoning:
Some time back, before my time, something happened that left intensely harsh feelings on both sides. Several months back, I talked to both Steve and John about a true National Championship, but at that time the very strong negative feelings still remained, and I believe that if there was ever a face to face meeting, it would become very confrontational. I was not around when “whatever happened, happened”, and frankly I don’t want to know. But I do know there were several subsequent attempts to “bring down” the other league forum web site (but obviously no one really knows who was responsible.
However, I was right in the middle of the breakup between PDDR and NPWDR (really John, Glen and David), plus the top 15 of us who had qualified for the 2011 KOTH. I know many of those top 15, and like me, we simply decided to ignore the snipes and vicious postings, concentrate on the future, and make the new league a success.
Now from the practical side, this is why I think a merger like ABA and NBA will NEVER occur in he forseeable future:
1 –The embedded harsh feelings are so strong; it will take a decade for them to disappear, even though those feelings are limited to less than a dozen individuals, maybe only 4 or 5. 2 – Most of the top 25 racers in the “other league top 50” listing, like me, race at least 4 cars, and often as many as 8. I am retired, have much more time and resources than many of my competitors. Yet it often takes me more time than I have to keep my 5 best cars running re-prepped, shipped and returned, and stay somewhat competitive to handle even one race a month. I once seriously considered running in PWDR also, but simply could not fit it in time wise. Those of us who must also work for a living are even more limited in time. 3 – To even my surprise, the other league became so popular, and grew so fast in numbers, that we couldn’t even run an event in less than 12 hours, aside from all the front end and rear end tasks that also have to be handled. The other league June Championships ended up with over 250 cars, and lasted so long that I even slept through several events. John had to expand to a four-lane track, and I don’t think that is now adequate. 6-lane is inevitable. The current attitude is now pretty much the same as PWDR: An invitation to everyone to come and race with us. BUT, we really expect the influx to be gradual to the point that we can gradually grow with the influx of new racers.
So my conclusion is that any thought of a merger within the next 5 or so years is hopeless. The other league growth plan is to hold events across the country. California and Arizona are two probably new additions, along with other interested parties. From a practical standpoint, it would be more possible, practical and sensible for PWDR to become one of those venues. However as I pointed out in point 1 above, there are 3 or 4 individuals on both sides whose feelings are so strong, that if even this possibility were to come to pass, it won’t be for several years.
From my own standpoint, I wish all of the PWDR builders and racers the best of luck. I often look at your site, and there are some awesome, beautiful pieces of art among your cars.
Respectfully OPA of OPARENNEN Translation: Grandpa of Grandpa Racing
Guys I consider the matter closed at this point. It appears that it will take more time or something else to change.
I put it out there because several people have asked me to and I believed it was in the best interest of the racers. Again for now the matter is closed and both leagues will continue on their own courses. There is nothing wrong with that either and having some options is good for the racers.