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Post by CycRunner on Dec 29, 2011 0:06:40 GMT -6
I am considering building a limited for the first time. In looking at the pictures of limited cars I don't see any with the rear wheels reversed like some builders are using for the Stock Division. This is not addressed in the rules. Is there a reason for limited builders not using reversed wheels? I assume it is optional.
Also I see only BSA wheels on the limited car pictures, while Pine-car, Pine-Pro, Mv Precision and Awana wheels are allowed. Are the BSA wheels proven to be that much better?
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Post by CycRunner on Dec 29, 2011 1:06:59 GMT -6
Another question about limited - Rule 3C says the decorative markings must remain. This obviously concerns the BSA wheels, but what about the MV precision? It has no decorative markings, just a clear step to the raised area containing the MV lettering. Is there no minimum OD?
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Post by Evolution on Dec 29, 2011 1:26:15 GMT -6
To answer all your questions at once, the answer is yes.
Tuning the wheels around is optional. I have found that with the heavier weight of the limited wheels that running them the proper way is faster. That is not to say someone might not come along tomorrow and prove me wrong.
So far I have not found any other wheel to be faster then BSA in Limited. Again tomorrow is another day and someone might prove that another wheel can be as fast. Look at last year. The first car to break the 2.920 mark was a Two Goats and a Kid car running Max-V wheels. Since then others have found ways to make the BSA wheels faster. I have too and that is why that is what I offer for the my wheels on my site.
On your last question you are also correct. The step must remain in the MV wheels to be legal. I can say this, if you cut the wheel to the step it will be much slower then other wheels out there anyways. You will get the weight of the wheel down, but it will not be able to compete. I have tried this and would be happy to send you a cut set for your own testing. I have even sent sets out to other racers for testing and they have reported the same results.
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Post by CycRunner on Dec 30, 2011 0:44:02 GMT -6
Thanks Steve for the info, I appreciate it. Any idea why the BSA's are faster and does that represent the USA or the Chinese wheels? I do like the way the Max V wheels machine, however.
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Post by Evolution on Dec 30, 2011 2:03:08 GMT -6
The Max-V wheels machine very nice. There may be a trick to cutting them to get more speed from them, but I have not found it. I also have not tested the Max-V 1 grams yet.
As far as BSA wheels go there is no comparision as to USA made vs China made wheels. The USA made wheels are of better quality. This of course could change, but I will still buy my wheels from BSA and make sure they are made in the USA.
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Post by murph on Dec 30, 2011 17:14:56 GMT -6
In November Race, Linda Lou ran 2.912 on Max V Wheels. Those wheels were pushed to the limit in every way possible. Still, that is the best that I could get out of them.
I will keep trying if time allows. Right now, if you don't have a lathe and experience in bore length reduction, I would stay away till somone figures these wheels out.
On paper, these modified wheels should fly. Just needs some more work!
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Post by Evolution on Dec 30, 2011 18:25:04 GMT -6
Murph,
Thats what Ikeep thinking. I have tried many times to get the speed from them and just can't find it. I have tried every bored length and dia combo that I can think of within the legal limits. I also have got them to about the same times you have, but just can't get past that point.
Now that being said I have two new sets on my bench to try and see if there is anything more, but I am not holding out hope for these as I send a set to someone else to test and they reported back that these were no better.
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Post by murph on Mar 24, 2012 19:23:33 GMT -6
Evo, Did you run Max V Wheels at PWDR Race? If so, when? I think we might be running some of these wheels in April again.   Murph |
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Post by murph on Mar 25, 2012 19:22:40 GMT -6
Evo is quiet. Evo knows that Murph is faster than him on Max V Wheels. ;D Got to give you a hard time Evo. I love you buddy.
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Post by Evolution on Mar 25, 2012 21:46:57 GMT -6
Murph,
I have run Max-V wheels at PWDR. I believe the last time I ran them was in 2011. I believe I set a track record at that time. I think it was 2.919, I was the first person to get into the teens, now all that being said it might have been Sky raing that did it. That has long been pushed to the side. The speed being seen now is truely great, if you can get close on the Max-V wheels please fill me in. I have tried almost everything I can think of, but you are always pushing the limits of wheel, axle, and prep process. It is guys like you that make me stay up late at night!!! LMAO!!!
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