Hi Theros, I know one thing. BSB and 5Kids would be loving you for this post! Those guys would just smoke our big axle cars! Building a needle car is very challenging and some racers like DaPine, BSB, BnB, and 5K have it figured it out. I have built about four of these cars and all were slow due to poor alignment. In short, the masters of needles would dominate if we ran large and needles! Thanks! Murph SLT
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I would like to suggest that we expand the rules for both the Stock and Modified divisions to allow people to run needle axles if they want to. This would most certainly increase the potential number of cars in those divisions and I really don't think it would do any harm. Several people (including me) chose to run big axle cars along with the needle cars this year anyway, and it didn't really seem to bother anybody. I might even consider building a needle car myself if the rules could be opened up in this way.
There is your big problem Murph. Max-V and Derby Worx both make some nice products but needle axles and razor wheels are not one of them. DW razor wheels are a fantastic choice for someone building an outlaw car for a pack race but for league racing, you will never hang.
Last Edit: Nov 20, 2012 14:19:06 GMT -6 by Goat Boy
I would think you could get close with the DW products.
You would need to bushing their large holed wheel and use the standard needle axles or use the needle holed wheels in conjunction with their new axles. I haven't tried the new combo, but I did bushing a set of the large holes and got within a few thousandths on time. That was on a spare car.
Ian, My problem was not with the Derby Worx Product, it was with the alignment of the cars. If I could get alignment right, like Rich says, I could get close with a little messaging and I have the tools to do this.
Everyone said that Derby Worx Ultra Lites could not be competitive in the pros and SLT-R1 and HR-66 Bull Head proved that wrong. R1 went to Mid America with brand new Derby Worx Ultra Lites (no mods) and took fifth (and beat my fast Stocker).
I routinely used Derby Worx Razors in front of my Hot Rods and SLT-1 Mod. There are a set of old Jewkes Wheels on the back of my Mod that are old and I keep using them because they are still in good condition and run well.
I have used axles from Derby Worx, Evo, Glen, and John. I made them all work and be fast. None of them were perfect right out of the box. They needed work.
In short, I believe the products by every manufacturer can be competitive with a little work. I don't believe it is fair to single out one Manufacturer, Derby Worx, like this. Am I a little bias? I could be > I support Bill and am a moderator on his website.
We need to get along and be fair to the vendors like you, Bill, Steve, John, and Glen. Everyone of you make good products and it is great you are supporting PWD!
And another thing, word has it that you live pretty close to my new location in South Beloit, WI. Send me a PM with your email and phone # and we can try to hook-up some time! Thanks, Murph SLT
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