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Post by ProQuest on Jun 4, 2007 12:39:33 GMT -6
Anyone up for a Super Stock division? It would be kinda like the new "Modified" division, except that it would be for stock cars. Think of it like the Pro-Stock division with standard sized axles (no needle axles). Either long or short wheel bases would be allowed, but you would have to use wide wheels (any brand) and full sized axles.
This would give builders who don't want to use needle axles another option.
If interested, please post your response.
Later,
ProQuest/Steve H.
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Post by Parrot Racing on Jun 4, 2007 13:16:05 GMT -6
Steve, that is what the rookie division is basically, isn't it? Or are you thinking of some other changes too.
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Post by ProQuest on Jun 4, 2007 14:27:28 GMT -6
Hey Parrot:
What I have in mind is similar, but not exactly like the Rookie Division. The main difference would be that lightened wheels would be allowed in the Super-Stock Division, including 1 gm and SS wheels, but needle axles would not be allowed. As you know, the PWDRacing Rookie Class does not allow lightened wheels of any kind. Also, at the risk of stating the obvious, you wouldn't have to be a Rookie to enter the Super-Stock Division. Basically, it would have the effect of dividing the Pro-Stock Class into two divisions, one that allows needle axles and one that does not.
It is really the same principal that gave rise to the new "Modified Division" (which is just like the Pro-Modified Division except that needle axles are allowed in "Modified" but not Pro-Modified). Hope that makes sense.
ProQuest/Steve H.
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Post by Lucky 13 on Jun 4, 2007 14:49:19 GMT -6
This might be something people are interested in. What's everyone else think ?
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Post by ProQuest on Jun 5, 2007 14:39:59 GMT -6
For what its worth, one of the other leagues runs a Super-Stock division like what I'm talking about. Adding the division to PWDRacing might attract racers who are already running in that class elsewhere. Just a thought.
Feed Back requested.
ProQuest/Steve H.
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Post by Da Pine Racing on Jun 5, 2007 15:48:07 GMT -6
Standard axles, lightened wide wheels & unlimited wheelbase sounds good.
As fast as you have been Steve, I don't think there is a class you wouldn't be tough in.
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Post by ProQuest on Jun 6, 2007 8:42:02 GMT -6
Given the caliber of competition in this league, that is quite a compliment. Thanks Da Pine. You aren't doing too badly yourself. Menace missed the top spot by just a hair.
It won't hurt my feelings if the consensus is that we don't need any more divisions. It just seems to me that there is a gap between the Limited division where no modifications are allowed, and the Pro-Stock division where you have to run needle axles to be competitive. The Super-Stock Division would fill that gap by adding a "wide wheel" division that allows most modifications except needle axles.
Thanks to those who have given feedback. Everyone else -- tell us what you think. Thanks.
ProQuest/Steve H.
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Post by Bubba on Jun 6, 2007 14:17:05 GMT -6
Team Bubba would welcome the Super Stock class, although we don't know when we'll be sending our next car North. Might be after the Semi's are done (barely got time for those any more).
This category would provide for easier adaptation of our typical BSA builds (extended wheelbase and regular axles). Just change out the wheels, add a little weight and let 'er rip...
It would be interesting to know how many of the existing Pro-Stocks would fit into this category (i.e. not currently running needles).
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Post by ProQuest on Jun 7, 2007 8:07:35 GMT -6
Hey Bubba:
You hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for stating it so well.
ProQuest/Steve H.
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Post by Parrot Racing on Jun 7, 2007 10:23:11 GMT -6
Steve, I think that would be a great idea. I am probably not alone in saying that I am a little gun-shy trying use needles for the first time. I have a hard enough time with standard size axles. I would go as far as to say I think that a class with big axles, light wheels and extended wheelbase, would eventually be the most popular class of all. It would also be a good place for rookies, who may not want to have to change all their cars to a standard wheelbase, to move up to. I have only been around a few months, so I don't want to sound like I know more than anyone else, but that is the way I see it.
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Post by ProQuest on Jun 8, 2007 18:53:02 GMT -6
Hey Parrot:
You are right. It would give us rookies a place to graduate to -- a class where we wouldn't have to use needle axles or razor wheels.
I think Phil (Slkr) is in favor of it as well. He posted a message on the WIRL live chat saying he thought it was a good idea. I hope he'll correct me if I misread his meaning.
I've weighed in on this enough. Any more posts from me on this thread and you guy are going to think I'm selling something. So, I'll leave it up to the rest of you to decide.
ProQuest/Steve H.
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Post by Warthog on Jun 8, 2007 20:40:08 GMT -6
I am fine with the idea as well. I drafted some rules up for the new division and am just waiting to hear back from Warren. I think the new division will be called the "Stock Division" since the term "Pro-Stock" has similar value to the term "Super Stock".
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Post by slkrnsntracing on Jun 9, 2007 5:39:29 GMT -6
I think Phil (Slkr) is in favor of it as well. He posted a message on the WIRL live chat saying he thought it was a good idea. I hope he'll correct me if I misread his meaning. ProQuest/Steve H. Steve, You understood correctly. I do think it would be a popular class, because a lot of racers are either not comfortable using needles, or they don't want to use them. I think they would learn more that would help them in BSA, AWANA, etc.. Phil
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Post by Warthog on Jun 12, 2007 8:01:51 GMT -6
We have a added a new division for July to meet some of the ideas posted in this thread. - Stock Division
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Post by Mr. Slick on Jun 14, 2007 18:17:58 GMT -6
so let me get this straight. There is another division to try and figure out? Where were the simple old days of 'rookie' racing!
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