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Post by CycRunner on Mar 3, 2013 22:18:30 GMT -6
How many of you proxy racers send staging instructions along with your entry form for PWD races? I know that was acceptable last season when Evo was running the show. During the races last month I didn't notice the person staging the cars doing anything to position the front dominant wheels of the cars relative to the rail. He did adjust the rear wheels, but I don't know if he had any requests for staging, other than what I sent.
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Post by ZZ Racing on Mar 3, 2013 22:39:52 GMT -6
I mark the rear of my cars so the person staging can line the marks up with the rails and on the front all my cars get staged so you can barely see light between the wheel and rail.
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Post by CycRunner on Mar 4, 2013 2:32:20 GMT -6
I mark the rear of my cars so the person staging can line the marks up with the rails and on the front all my cars get staged so you can barely see light between the wheel and rail. I give the same instructions for my dominant front wheel but the stager didn't pay any attention to where the front dominant wheel was placed - at least I did not see any evidence that he did that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 13:03:31 GMT -6
Cyc, Based on my staging in January Race, I like it when racers mark the front and rear of the car. It really works well. Agreed: The cars should be staged according to the marks as per the racer's set-up. It is a tad difficult to use staging instructions but you might check with Mr Slick via PM. Thanks! Murph
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Post by Mr. Slick on Mar 4, 2013 20:44:34 GMT -6
The cars were staged with the front wheel first. We find it easier to stage the DFW first and then align the back.
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Post by B.S.B. Racing on Mar 5, 2013 5:27:43 GMT -6
The cars were staged with the front wheel first. We find it easier to stage the DFW first and then align the back. I will have to try it like that.............I've always done it the other way around. I always thought the backs in most cases were centered first, then (as per staging instructions) the DFW was put in place last so it couldn't move from where the builder instructed it to be.
I put a lot of time in building and tuning..........some cars perform better with the DFW at different places in relation to the rail. I would think that would be the very last part of the staging process to take place? THE DFW!
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Post by ZZ Racing on Mar 5, 2013 11:20:30 GMT -6
I agree Bill. If the front is set first and then you move the back I would think this would change the position of the front dfw. I always stage the rear of the car first. The cars were staged with the front wheel first. We find it easier to stage the DFW first and then align the back. I will have to try it like that.............I've always done it the other way around. I always thought the backs in most cases were centered first, then (as per staging instructions) the DFW was put in place last so it couldn't move from where the builder instructed it to be.
I put a lot of time in building and tuning..........some cars perform better with the DFW at different places in relation to the rail. I would think that would be the very last part of the staging process to take place? THE DFW!
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Post by X-Ring Racing on Mar 5, 2013 14:04:06 GMT -6
Funny this is mentioned.
While live at the races in Zanesville, it seemed to me most cars.... including ones being staged by live racers, the fdw was set 1st. Then the car was rolled rearward and allowed to settle.
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Post by B.S.B. Racing on Mar 5, 2013 16:17:48 GMT -6
Funny this is mentioned. While live at the races in Zanesville, it seemed to me most cars.... including ones being staged by live racers, the fdw was set 1st. Then the car was rolled rearward and allowed to settle. That was done if the DFW was placed on the rail. If it was off the rail it should be done last. You can't expect the DFW to stay put when you are messing with the rear wheels............front of the car is too light and skids all over the place.
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Post by texastornado on Mar 5, 2013 17:34:52 GMT -6
I like putting marks on both front and back of the car. Staging the rear then positioning the DFW last, but this last race I didn't a lot of that. Anytime I reverse that procedure the DFW will move somewhat. I've heard a few complaints about last months staging, but I think that will improve as the stager gains experience. I don't see how they can keep up with everything they have to do as it is. Just my two-cents.
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Post by CycRunner on Mar 5, 2013 22:48:04 GMT -6
When I build my cars I cut in the dominant wheel side of the car in so that when that wheel is against the car, and the rail, the center line of the car coincides with the center line of the rail. So, on my track, when I stage the car I move the dominant wheel against the rail and move the nose of the car against the wheel, thus closing any gap between the car and the wheel - then move the whole nose so the wheel is just off the rail and showing a sliver of daylight. I then equally space the rears over the rail, and recheck the front to make sure I have what I want there. I then make a visual check on both the rears and front to verify the staging. I do, however, vary the gap off the rail to get my best times, but I seldom exceed a gap off the rail of more than 1/32".
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